European Urology

European Urology

Volume 56, issue 1, pages 1-236, July 2009

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Reply to A. Edward Friedman's Letter to the Editor re: Abraham Morgentaler, Abdulmaged M. Traish. Shifting the Paradigm of Testosterone and Prostate Cancer: The Saturation Model and the Limits of Androgen-Dependent Growth. Eur Urol 2009;55:310–21

Abraham Morgentaler a lowast , Abdulmaged M. Traish b.

Accepted 24 March 2009, Published online 1 April 2009, page e5


Refers to article:

Shifting the Paradigm of Testosterone and Prostate Cancer: The Saturation Model and the Limits of Androgen-Dependent Growth

Abraham Morgentaler, Abdulmaged M. Traish.

Accepted 16 September 2008

February 2009 (Vol. 55, Issue 2, pages 310 - 321)

Refers to article:

Re: Abraham Morgentaler, Abdulmaged M. Traish. Shifting the Paradigm of Testosterone and Prostate Cancer: The Saturation Model and the Limits of Androgen-Dependent Growth. Eur Urol 2009;55:31021

A. Edward Friedman.

Accepted 24 March 2009

July 2009 (Vol. 56, Issue 1, page e4)

Article Outline

We are grateful to Dr. Friedman [1] for raising discussion of the Saturation Model [2], which we believe offers new and exciting lines of inquiry regarding androgens and prostate cancer. Dr. Friedman writes, “For any biological model, however, to be an accurate representation of reality, it must be consistent with all known experimental results.” We heartily agree with this comment. Yet it is important to recognize that most cancers are heterogeneous, and different experimental models, especially in vitro systems such as cell culture systems, may produce variable responses to hormones and growth factors.

Dr. Friedman appears to be generally in agreement with the Saturation Model. The model posits an exquisite sensitivity of prostate cancer to changes in androgen concentrations at very low levels but indifference to such changes at higher concentrations. Dr. Friedman, however, suggests that a study by Eggener et al [3] provides results that are inconsistent with the Saturation Model.

We disagree. The model used by Eggener et al [3] exposed nude mice implanted with LnCaP tumors to intermittent androgen ablation, a treatment known to cause prostate tumors to escape normal androgenic regulation. Moreover, the study authors themselves recognized a major irregularity in their results, since prostate-specific antigen concentrations failed to decline with androgen deprivation, as is usually seen with LnCaP tumors. This result indicates that this experimental system did not respond normally to androgenic stimuli. For this reason, we do not believe the study by Eggener et al has relevance to the Saturation Model.

Dr. Freidman's comments regarding androgen membrane receptor activity are interesting, but we believe this process is unrelated to the Saturation Model.
Conflicts of interest: The authors have nothing to disclose.

References

  • [1] Friedman, AE. Re: Abraham Morgentaler, Abdulmaged M. Traish. Shifting the paradigm of testosterone and prostate cancer: the Saturation Model and the limits of androgen-dependent growth. Eur Urol 2009;55:310–21. Eur Urol 2009;56:e4.
  • [2] A. Morgentaler, A.M. Traish. Shifting the paradigm of testosterone and prostate cancer: the Saturation Model and the limits of androgen-dependent growth. Eur Urol 55 (2009) (310 - 321) Abstract, Full-text, PDF, Crossref.
  • [3] S.E. Eggener, J.A. Stern, P.M. Jain, et al.. Enhancement of intermittent androgen ablation by “off-cycle” maintenance with finasteride in LNCaP prostate cancer xenograft model. Prostate 66 (2006) (495 - 502) Crossref.
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